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Post by sun on Sept 3, 2006 9:28:47 GMT -5
No, we should not keep our soliders over there to kill, but to help maintain order.
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Lajos
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Post by Lajos on Sept 3, 2006 9:39:51 GMT -5
I must agree--As long as they don't drop any more bombs, staying would suffice. Even so, I'm sick of hearing about little children in those little countries over there dying...
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Post by sun on Sept 3, 2006 11:32:31 GMT -5
As am I.
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Post by Nadjia on Sept 4, 2006 17:51:40 GMT -5
Gha this subject really strikes a cord. My cousin was recently killed out there this summer, using his body as human target so his troops could escape from being slaughtered. He went there to do peace keeping but just ended up fighting. I truly believe they should start trying to keep peace and maintain order, or find a solution to things. Not just randomly kill. Though I don’t blame the soldiers for anything my hate is twisted toward the people in charge –cough presidents cough- Why cant they just make agreements? ..arrr. I just hate it, the government acts like its nothing when hundreds of soldiers from all around are being killed or losing limbs. Their lives and their families lives are being ruined, not to mention all the others peoples lives getting messed up that live over in that war zone. Its just not fare, and the stupid higher up people don’t give s***. And nobody better tell me the good, I’ve heard it enough. >> -sigh- I think ill try to stop ranting now…
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Post by Keenan & Kennal on Sept 5, 2006 2:53:47 GMT -5
my new cousin in law managed to survive two or three tours over there, but his buddies were not so lucky... ((R.I.P.)) its horible to hear of the things that happen. every time you turn on thw news, people dieing young and old, alies and not.
In my opinion, we should leave becase were doing more harm then good. yes we should try to keep the peace, but we dont seem to be doing a good job of it do we?
My boy friend just joined the air force too. when I heared he descided to, I almsot cried! the last thing I want if for him to end up over there with all thats going on!
sorii this is so short. I'm really tired...
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Post by Captain Z on Sept 5, 2006 18:51:06 GMT -5
well i dont even think they should be there. i havnt really heard one good thing from it. i mean, sure you got saddam, but yeah, i dont see any change. soldiers were put there to make a difference, not come back in koffins. on top of that, your bombing out villages? a harsh comment it would be to say this, but america is basically doing what saddam is getting charged for.
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Post by Wolfbane on Sept 5, 2006 21:48:02 GMT -5
America thinks they are supposed to bring peace to everyone. They weren't even involved in what was going on in Iraq or Afghanistan or whatever. Stupid people. Bush ought to be sent off for genocidal manslaughter. -snarl-
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Post by Phantom on Sept 17, 2006 0:54:25 GMT -5
America thinks they are supposed to bring peace to everyone. They weren't even involved in what was going on in Iraq or Afghanistan or whatever. Stupid people. Bush ought to be sent off for genocidal manslaughter. -snarl- Techincally, the US became involved then we were attacked on September 11th. But yeah, Mr "dubbuya" Bush sould have just dealt with the people who attacked us and left it at that. He didn't even finish what he started in Afghanistan before he moved on to other problems. THAT is what made him stupid. He's probably worried about the middle easting cutting off this precious oil supply. [Even though the US has alternitave fuels, he seems to refuse to listen for the sake of his millions of dollars]
Wolfbane, I do agree with what you said about America trying to bring peace to everyone. It's an impossible thing. There will always be wars to fight. America should learn to mind it's own buisness for a change. THAT'S why all the other nations see America as a threat, because we won't get off their backs about differences in society.
It seems, and I'm saying this as a citizen of the US, that "the greatest power on earth" just wants everyone to be "americanized." And, if a country refuses to be like the US, we start dropping bombs until they give in.
Just my opinions... I really think that America is a VERY hipocritical nation.
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Post by Bane on Sept 17, 2006 19:30:25 GMT -5
America thinks they are supposed to bring peace to everyone. They weren't even involved in what was going on in Iraq or Afghanistan or whatever. Stupid people. Bush ought to be sent off for genocidal manslaughter. -snarl- We all just happen to hate the US presidents, because they all make mistakes.
Psychiatrist- "Who's the current president? You know, the one who lives in the White house?" Blade- "Another @$$hole" -Blade Trinity
Us has typically tried to stay out of wars, and remain "neutral". But, it never stays like that. The US always end up interfering. And that's usually because someone had attacked the US, much like Phantom had said.
Like my best friend Todd said, "Bush just wants to start all these wars so he can remain president". Which, in my opinion, is true.
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Post by Sudak on Sept 19, 2006 6:25:36 GMT -5
Bane... he's president and he's in his last term... war has nothing to do with keeping him in office. If he sat at his desk and just signed papers he would be perfectly safe from impeachment. I'm for the war personallly. Yes we did have a reason for Afghanistan and now yes the oil crisis deal in Iraq but the fact of the matter is.. we're there deal with it. The main problem over there is them not us. If the stupid insurgents would get over the fact that their leader is dead and to move on then we wouldn't be having this problem... but until they're 'dealt with' then the problem will continue. Imagine this... If we pulled out now, what do you think will happen in the future? Can you say 9-11 all over again??? I really can go on and on about this but I have class to attend to now, so I will let you children bicker in peace
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Post by Naca on Sept 19, 2006 8:48:42 GMT -5
So why are you calling us children; because we don't agree with people dying for an idiotic cause and you do? And we weren't really bickering; we were all being pretty anitwar for the most part.I'd like to hear what you have to say on why you think the war started, Sudak.
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Post by Lajos on Sept 19, 2006 17:59:15 GMT -5
[glow=black,2,300]Look, I don't want to start an argument... I'm just voicing my opinions. I don't dislike George Bush, I just think he could do a better job at what he does.[/glow]
(If this...erm... dispute gets any worse, please lock the thread, Wolfbane.)
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Post by Sudak on Sept 19, 2006 19:20:45 GMT -5
I don't want to argue either... ... and I was calling you children because most of, if not all, of you in this discussion are younger than me ... not being mean was just stating the obvious.. or as Lajos put it.. my opinion
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Post by Farrah on Sept 19, 2006 20:21:34 GMT -5
*realizes she's walking into another bloody debate* *begins to back away* *too late* Alright. Here's my OPINION: In Vietnam, the people the US troops were protecting were killing off our soldiers. They didn't want us there. Eventually, we left because of popular vote. When we left, guess who came streaming in and killed thousands of those who we had been protecting? Now, we're protecting the Iraqis. They don't want us there. They're killing off our soldiers. Eventually, if we leave, guess who's going to come streaming in and killing thousands of those we had been protecting? Let's think about this, shall we? I don't dislike Bush. The American people pushed him to his decisions. Who shouted for the war to begin in the first place? I'll admit, I was among the millions screaming for war to begin when I watched the towers fall. This IS a democracy. He heard the citizens. He wanted to win the election of 2004. He went with popular decision. This decision may not have been the best thing to do, but he IS a political figure and that's what they usually deem necissary. Besides, we'd probably all like him better if it weren't for the horrifying times in which we find ourselves: 9-11, war, Katrina, no more Pluto, Steve Erwin dies...ok, so maybe Steve's death had nothing to do with it, but you get my drift. I do not agree with the slaughter of children. What did they do? But I do agree with remaining where we are. I do not agree it should be called the War on TERRORISM. Terrorism has no proper defined definition. It could be a 12-year-old bully giving a small kid a wedgie on a playground. What? Are we going to shoot him on sight too? I think the war should be more defined and centered on an actual tangeable cause rather than an something that's going to keep us hooked for the next thousand years. *blips megaphone one last time* That is all.
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