New Harry Potter Movie

[Trile]

I HATE these movies, and they should be rated PU. But that doesn't really make sense, so I guess I'd go with PG. It doesn't have THAT dark a meaning. But I've been reading these books WAY before stupid people decided to try (try being the keyword) to make these movies, so I am very obsessed. Anyway, my friends mom cried when she read that one part, but Shukne, you must be nuts. *raps on head* I bet you anything he is evil. No member of the order of the pheonix would kill him, meaning the one who died. He's almost as important as Harry, and I tell you, the way he begged before he died was proof enough. I know a few people who believe that, but to but it brashly I think it's bull. I mean, come on! The only reason I ever trusted Snape was because Dumbledore did. But the book even hinted it. Like when Dumbledore said something along these lines: "I am much cleverer than most men, so my mistakes are usually greater." Come on, his mistake of trusting Snape lead him to his death.

[Shakó]

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Gosh, Shunke! Take a chill pill! I told you not to eat those M&M's! (LOL, good thing she already left the computer room).

But I go niether way, they are both very convincing arguments. And Trile, you're going to have to do more than hit her on the head to convince her about Snape. She's obsessed and determined, and that's something I wouldn't want to challenge. *is dreading what is going to happen once she gets on again*

But yes, they need alot of work on the films, that's a definent. More important scenes, and less stupid pointless ones. But, hey, I still enjoy watching them.
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[Shunké]

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LEGAG! *hits Shako on head* that's for trying to hide this from me!
*hits him again* And that's for trying to take away my M&M's! NOBODY takes away my chocolate and gets away with it!

Back to the subject. Like you, Trile, I became very obsessed before the movies came out; and even before the fourth book came out. I've read and re read the enite series many of times, and I still have to say that Snape is NOT EVIL.

Yes, I agree, no member would kill him. But think of the situation! DD was begging, he was already weak and probably going to die from the potion. Draco probably wasn't going to do it, untill the DE came in. He was afraid, he didn't have a choice. But DD didn't want Draco to become a killer, so he begged Snape. They both know Occulens, so it's entirely possible that they were somehow comunicating. The only reason Snape did it, was to save Draco's hide.

But it was right to trust Snape, and Snape didn't want to be brought over by his new teaching post, so he told DD "I don't want to do it anymore." But of course, DD wouldn't let him stop teaching.
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[darkrose]

I can't wait till it comes out!!!

[armoraq]

Snape? Ah, there is a very interesting subject. Mainly because it is hard to tell what he will do next. In this last book it seemed he was actually a good person (well sorta) but boy, at the end! Draco is another complicated charactor. Yes, for a while I thought he was evil! And then when it siad how his face was turning grayish I thought about Riddle. Since that was what happened to him as he turned into the evil Voldemort. Or He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named. But now I feel sorry for him. He was forced to do all that, just to save his family. Okay, well I will just quit rambling.

[Farrah]

OK. Some of you have differing opinions about Snape. Apparently, there are some little wolves who need to catch up on their reading! In the newest and blackest of the series, an EXTREMELY interesting thing happens. This decides who is evil and who is not. Is Malfoy really evil? Is Snape really evil? What are those mysterious intervals in which Dumbledore has been missing? What's wrong with Hagrid? Who is the Half-Blood Prince? These and many more questions will be answered throughout the book. If they actually do make Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince a movie, it WILL be rated R. So much violence! I never would have guessed the ending! I stayed up FOREVER so I could finish it! I never would have known! And Harry's decision at the end to *** ****** ********!! It's too horrible to bear! Besides, there's a love story behind all of the madness! You'll never guess who Ron's dating! No one could ever have guessed who Harry eventually ends up kissing!! (LOL!!) It's a dark and mysterious story that no one will forget. Anyone who has read all of the books will be close to tears. A main character dies. It's just like when Aslan dies in the Chronicals of Narnia (I probably shouldn't have told you that since it's coming out on the big screen soon...it's soooo going to be PG. The comercials LOOK Pg-13, but how can they do that if the reading range for the book is 3th grade through 9th?) and Gandalf is thought dead when thrown into the abyss. I don't believe, as of this book, that two of the main characters that have died are really dead. The second one who died I believe either has a ghost or horcrux (you'll find out what that is.) The first one I believe was assumed dead but never died. However, you watch as the second character dies. I seriously cried. I loved that character! Not dead, not dead, not dead!!! Aaaah!

[Trile]

Yeah, well after that interesting little book review I'd like to tell you everyone in this thread has read the book and are HP fans. Also, I don't really care if you stayed up forever since I never liked bragging much. And it always bugs me when people won't admit others are dead. They are DEAD! I assure you. Avada Kedavra is an unforgiveable curse, so why would it be able to escape that? You're post doesn't really bother me, not the end anyway with your opinion, but the rest I have to say I think is just going on and on and bragging. But that's just me, and that's one of my pet peeves, especially when people say I need to catch up on my reading and start telling me all about a book I've read and love. Again, that's just me.

[Farrah]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean for it to sound braggy. Actually, quite the opposite. It's my pet peeve when someone thinks they know something about a book and they don't. (I also highly dislike it when people give away things from books...some wolves up there were hinting at things and naming names and I guess that got me a little edgy.) It said something about them not thinking Snape was bad. How can anyone believe that after the previous set of circumstances? Again, that got me edgy. About the dead Vs. not dead...I read the book Eldest. Paolini brought back a character that supposedly died in the beginning of the book. It has changed my perspective on every book. And Gandalf came back to life. I didn't think he would (I read the book before the movie so no one else told me the truth of the matter) so that has also changed my perspective. Many things in Harry Potter books are not as they seem. I just believe that the deaths of...those two characters...could not have happened. As I tried to convey above, I am still not sure the latter of those will actually return, but the previous one? We have no way to know he is actually dead. No way! It's just *poof* gone behind the curtain. How would anyone know he's dead? That's just my perspective. If you want to argue about it, this is the debate board. I like to hear differing opinions. They either help me feel stronger about the topic I believe in, give me a better chance to argue for that point, make me a better debater (trust me, that's a point I need badly!), or change my mind altogether for the better. Everyone makes mistakes. As you've said, you think one of mine is believing those characters couldn't have died.

[Shunké]

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Avada Kedavra is an unforgiveable curse, so why would it be able to escape that?

Aside from the point that Harry escaped it, JK never really said that that curse was used. A jet of green light- that's not exactly a name now is it? And I think there is definently more to S's death. And I don't have to get over it. I can go my whole life still in denile, which is exactly what I'm going to do.

It said something about them not thinking Snape was bad. How can anyone believe that after the previous set of circumstances?

Well, look at the little jewls. Look at the hints, look at the little reactions that JK has given. To me, JK WANTS you to think he's bad. But the fact he wanted to give up the very thing he loathed to do, that's proof enough for me.
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[Nocturnia Diiore]

I absolutely hate Harry Potter and all that stuff, but I'll tell you all right now, the dragon in that film is ADORABLE. But, yeah, rated R from me because America says violence is bad. (Even though they started a war -cough-)

[Farrah]

To Shunke: It doesn't say which curse was used! Ha! I knew Dumbledore's death wasn't defined! I'm glad you think there was more to...as you say...S's death. About Snape...I thought he was a good guy...I really did. I thought that the only reason he was mean and nasty was because of Harry's dad. However, I was "proven" wrong in the last book...well, second to last book. However, JKRowling works in mysterious ways. I don't think anyone with the exception of herself knows what will really happen and who's good and who's bad and who's dead and who's not. In the famous words of Forest Gump, "And that's all I have to say about that."
To Diorre: How can you hate Harry Potter? What's not to love? Yes, the dragon IS adorable. I would have said rated R accept for the audience...and the fact that it's already been officially rated PG-13. Good guess though. I could get into the whole America started the war crap...but I won't. Be thankful for that cause I could go on and on. You see, I took a test in Government (stupid Government class...*grumble grumble*) based on Republican/Democrat...or if you wanna call it Conservative/Liberal, that's what it was more or less. Anyway, in a test with about 130-some-odd questions on it, I was exactly 50-50 for each side. How weird? So I have a bunch to say about the good and bad things for both sides. Not that that stupid test accounted/ammounted for/to anything, but I think it told the truth. I believe in exactly half and half! (Political parties hate me...*sob sob*) But I think we'd better get back to the whole Harry Potter debating part before we get into a Republican/Democrat or Love Bush/Kill Bush debate. OK? ((Not that that's what you meant in the above post, but sometimes I just get carried away when it comes to politics...oh no! I'm becoming a lawyer! Aaaah!))

[Wolfbane]

farrah said:

I could get into the whole America started the war crap...but I won't. Be thankful for that cause I could go on and on.

Farrah, you fool, you said that and then you went on and on and it was irritating. Don't try to create controversy and peeve me off, savvy?

I don't even want to see the movie. I'm fine with watching the commercials for it. It wasn't even a good book series.

[Shunké]

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It doesn't say which curse was used! Ha! I knew Dumbledore's death wasn't defined!

Actually, Farrah, it does say wich curse was used for DD's death. Avada Kedavra, the killing curse. I was talking about S's, that no curse name was given for his apparent death curse thing.

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[Farrah]

To Wolfbane: Methinks it was a great bookseries. Isn't that what the debate board is for, isn't it? Differing points of view? Sorry if I "peeved you off" but...as I said, I get carried away sometimes. If you'd like, I'll delete everything above...I have no need for it and if you don't like it, chances are, everyone else will hate it as well.
To Shunke: About the S's death thing...sorry, I don't have the books with me. I lent off the series to a friend so I can't justify anything I remember. I seriously thought you were talking about D's death. I still think that D owns a horcrux or ghost however. That point for me is steadfast. But my question is, who do you think RAD is? These are the initials found when D drinks the poison ((just in case you needed some refreshing on the topic which I doubt you do)) I probably should get another post for this, but I wonder whether it was D. I know that that sounds stupid, but who knows? Maybe D's name begins with an R and not with an A as suspected. Who knows. But I would like to find out what the opinions are...so go ahead...what do you think?

[Wolfbane]

Oh, Farrah, it's fine, you silly wolf. I'm just a mean god so I get to prance around and be mean to you all. I'm usually just being rude (because I can), I'm not ever really angry at members here unless I threaten to ban them. Don't let me get to you, dearling.

I want to know something, though - Are there going to be more books after Harry's all graduated and such? It seems that it would be strange without J. K. Rowling giving her fans suspense whilst they wait for yet another volume to add to the series.. Wouldn't it? I'm just so used to everyone fretting and chattering about the next Harry Potter, it would be weird without that. -Blink-